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Rachel E. S. Lösche
Rachel E. S. Lösche
@resl@mas.to  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@inkorrupt DiEM has a million problems I could cite as causes to dissociate from it, but if we want to replace fascist military industrial complex finance capitalism with peace and justice, we have to fix what exists. It's not helpful just to complain about it.

I think we need to organize by near all means. There are members of DiEM who think things I do not think but DiEM's explicit mission comports with mine. I think we need to form big communities to confront the threats we face right now.

Subcömandante ♠️ Midas 🦄
Subcömandante ♠️ Midas 🦄
@inkorrupt@goto.antifa.club replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

hi @resl i switched from my local @inkorrupt account to my main to answer you for reasons.

WTF, seriously?
You deleted your first, much more honest, personal, and understandable response just to replace it with "I am a loyal Diem25 company person, and I marginalize and even justify anti-Semitic death threats against your imprisoned comrades from #AntifaOst by saying that they are just one problem among millions that is secondary to the overarching mission 'We must replace the fascist military-industrial complex'?

Replace it with what?

With large organizations like #diem25 whose *official position* (not just the meaning of some members as you suggest) is to support even Jew-hating pro-Palestinian activists from #handala in #leipzig as a large organization, just as they threaten my people, whom the fascist military-industrial complex is letting rot in its prisons, with death instead of supporting them in solidarity?

Because they dared to wear a NOVA festival shirt?

Congratulations, the fascist military-industrial complex gladly accepted the criticism and confiscated the shirt. *very slow clap*

By saying “Just complaining doesn't help,” you are also implying that you believe your way is the only true way - or - that you are not interested in the commitment of others - or - that you assume everyone else is just a cry-baby who complains a lot but does nothing.

But guess what, I was just too busy to already tell you about things that support your totally correct thesis, “I think we need to form big communities to confront the threats we face right now.”

I would have liked to contrast your rather authoritarian-centralist approach of #Diem25 with an anti-authoritarian, decentralized, and federated approach, perhaps trying to convince you of the importance of diversity of tactics, and, based on a common consensus on this, inviting you to take a look at our project for a “PayPal Killer” grass roots movement @taler, and to help develop the technology and strategy for it in a small and conspiratorial tech collective.

But you have now permanently disqualified yourself from that, and that makes me really, really and very sad. blobcatsad​

I wish you had accepted the “no need to argue, you do you” approach, because then at least I would have been left with the illusion that we can be not only leftists, but also comrades.

But you chose your (Hamas) fighters, and this is why you can't have nice things.

That's over now. blobcatno​

--- a message to you Diem25 ---

#Handala? Screw you!

[And #Diem25, screw you, too!]

Handala? Screw you!

The #Handala group and other anti-Semitic structures and individuals are trying to stir up sentiment against individual defendants in the #AntifaOst trial and divide solidarity structures.
https://de.indymedia.org/node/551387

Why?

Because one of the defendants wore a shirt in #solidarity with the victims of the anti-Semitic massacre perpetrated by #Hamas and other Palestinians at the #NovaFestival.

But we say quite clearly:

Solidarity with *all* Antifas in prison, in court, and on the run.

Solidarity with all victims of October 7, 2023, and their families.

For a progressive left, against all anti-Semitism and pure contempt for the #Dresden state prison!

#AntifaOst #FreeMaja #FreeAllAntifas #GegenJedenAntisemitismus #FreeGazaFromHamas #FreePalestineFromAntisemitism #AntifaStattHandala
#AntifaNotHandala

[ #AntifaNotDiem25]

https://de.indymedia.org/node/556332

Antifa statt Handala! | de.indymedia.org

Fanclub der Judenmörder – Ein Portrait der Gruppe Handala | de.indymedia.org

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Erik Uden 🍑
Erik Uden 🍑
@ErikUden@mastodon.de  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

Sehr geehrtes @gei,
woran macht ihr das denn fest? Was habe Ich denn in den letzten 6 Tagen gesagt das euch eure Meinung über mich hat ändern lassen. Nennt gerne Ereignisse oder Zitate, auch für die Linksjugend ['solid] generell.

Das nun, nichtmal drei Tage nach dem Bundeskongress, nach einer Hetzkampagne der Springerpresse und unbelegten, extrem einseitigen Aussagen, alle denken die Debatte wieder öffentlich führen zu müssen und #HaltDieFresseSpringerPresse nur dann gilt wenn es einem ideologisch passt, ist ein Zeichen der politischen Entgleisung.

Die Linke ist keine antisemitische Partei, die Staatsräson nur rassistisch und die Instrumentalisierung des Antisemitismusbegriffs absehbar. Es ist sehr schade, dass ihr auf diese Sache reinfallt, wer dekoloniale Arbeit jedoch nicht stützt, der kann sich kein Antifaschist nennen.

Es ist traurig das ihr den Diskurs, den ihr selbst für so wichtig gehalten habt, hier nicht sucht.

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Georg Elser Institut
@gei@don.linxx.net replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@ErikUden

Wir nehmen zur Kenntnis, dass auch Sie im Kontext des Nahostkonfliktes jede abweichende Meinung als implizit rassist. und explizit nicht antifaschist. feindmarkieren.

Den Diskurs suchten wir, den dazu angelegten Account #GegenJedenAntisemitismus @ #mastodonDE wurde jedoch durch die Administration (Sie) kommentarlos gleich nach dessen Registrierung gelöscht.

Insofern hat sich unsere Meinung über Sie keineswegs geändert, wir haben sie nur auch durch Sie selbst verifizieren lassen. 🤷

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