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Aral Balkan
Aral Balkan
@aral@mastodon.ar.al  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

So we’re just having a little chat :)

Screenshot of Persisted Kitten Chat example running at htps://91.98.66.193

Status: Online

Aral Right, | just started the Persisted Kitten Chat example instead so the chat log will be preserved :)

FiXato 🖖

Matt: meow

Aral: Hey FiXato, Matt, welcome :)

Aral: So this is how | see folks running their own Small Web sites in the future, at Web Numbers (IP addresses, really, but less scary) :)

Max: Hello!

Aral: (Only made possible as of this month with Let's Encrypt rolling out support for TLS certs at IP addresses.)

Hellie: Hiya!

Aral: Hey, Max, Hellie, how goes?

oliofl: Hello

Hellie: doing alright, interesting app!

Aral: Of course, this is an example of an old-school centralised site where we're all chatting on the same server but, if you're interested, check out the end-to-end-encrypted Kitten Chat example in the repository for a peer-to-peer version :)

Aral: Thanks, Hellie, the really interesting bit is that we're meeting at an IP address over https ;)

Aral: Oops, | meant Web Number ;)
Screenshot of Persisted Kitten Chat example running at htps://91.98.66.193 Status: Online Aral Right, | just started the Persisted Kitten Chat example instead so the chat log will be preserved :) FiXato 🖖 Matt: meow Aral: Hey FiXato, Matt, welcome :) Aral: So this is how | see folks running their own Small Web sites in the future, at Web Numbers (IP addresses, really, but less scary) :) Max: Hello! Aral: (Only made possible as of this month with Let's Encrypt rolling out support for TLS certs at IP addresses.) Hellie: Hiya! Aral: Hey, Max, Hellie, how goes? oliofl: Hello Hellie: doing alright, interesting app! Aral: Of course, this is an example of an old-school centralised site where we're all chatting on the same server but, if you're interested, check out the end-to-end-encrypted Kitten Chat example in the repository for a peer-to-peer version :) Aral: Thanks, Hellie, the really interesting bit is that we're meeting at an IP address over https ;) Aral: Oops, | meant Web Number ;)
Screenshot of Persisted Kitten Chat example running at htps://91.98.66.193 Status: Online Aral Right, | just started the Persisted Kitten Chat example instead so the chat log will be preserved :) FiXato 🖖 Matt: meow Aral: Hey FiXato, Matt, welcome :) Aral: So this is how | see folks running their own Small Web sites in the future, at Web Numbers (IP addresses, really, but less scary) :) Max: Hello! Aral: (Only made possible as of this month with Let's Encrypt rolling out support for TLS certs at IP addresses.) Hellie: Hiya! Aral: Hey, Max, Hellie, how goes? oliofl: Hello Hellie: doing alright, interesting app! Aral: Of course, this is an example of an old-school centralised site where we're all chatting on the same server but, if you're interested, check out the end-to-end-encrypted Kitten Chat example in the repository for a peer-to-peer version :) Aral: Thanks, Hellie, the really interesting bit is that we're meeting at an IP address over https ;) Aral: Oops, | meant Web Number ;)
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@kkarhan@infosec.space replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

@aral so, what makes #KittenChat a better choice than #IRC ( #WebIRC) or #XMPP+ #OMEMO or #PGP/MIME?

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Daniel Gultsch
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@daniel@gultsch.social  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@tris there are three actively developed protocols for federated instant messaging (XMPP, Matrix, Deltachat). At least one of them is very open to new developers and new ideas and has a structure in place to collaboratively work on those ideas and bring various stake holders together. With no disrespect to that individual I don't see why there needs to be a forth protocol loosely based on ActivityPub.

Daniel Gultsch
Daniel Gultsch
@daniel@gultsch.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@tris Soatak is an expert in cryptography. I’m not. I’m more than happy to stand on the shoulder of giants when it comes to E2EE. That’s why we used the Signal Protocol 10+ years ago for #OMEMO and are now looking towards #MLS. However, good, interoperable protocol design is so much more than just E2EE. And maybe I've learned a thing or two about protocol design in my career that they don’t necessarily know.

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@asturicense@masto.es  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

@Tutanota Decentralised instant messaging applications that use the #xmpp protocol with #omemo encryption, such as #conversations.

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Daniel Gultsch
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@daniel@gultsch.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

Many exciting projects made it into the latest @NGIZero funding round.

My personal favorites are OMEMO v2 ( #TWOMEMO 😜) for Converse.js (by @jcbrand) and GTK4 support for @phosh.

https://nlnet.nl/news/2025/20251016-selection-NGI0CommonsFund.html

#XMPP #Jabber #Converse #OMEMO

NLnet; 29 Free and Open Source Projects Receive Grants to Build Digital Commons

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@daniel@gultsch.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

Many exciting projects made it into the latest @NGIZero funding round.

My personal favorites are OMEMO v2 ( #TWOMEMO 😜) for Converse.js (by @jcbrand) and GTK4 support for @phosh.

https://nlnet.nl/news/2025/20251016-selection-NGI0CommonsFund.html

#XMPP #Jabber #Converse #OMEMO

NLnet; 29 Free and Open Source Projects Receive Grants to Build Digital Commons

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Norbert Tretkowski
Norbert Tretkowski
@norbert@social.tretkowski.de  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago

Thank you @daniel for a new set of Conversations, XMPP and OMEMO stickers!

#Conversations_im #XMPP #OMEMO

Conversations, XMPP and OMEMO stickers on an envelope.
Conversations, XMPP and OMEMO stickers on an envelope.
Conversations, XMPP and OMEMO stickers on an envelope.
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Daniel Gultsch
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@daniel@gultsch.social  ·  activity timestamp 5 months ago

I just bought 20 envelopes and stamps, and I'm packing them with 5x #Conversations_im, 5x #OMEMO, and 5x #XMPP each.

Send me an email if you want one. Put 'Stickers' in the subject so I can filter. While supplies last, obviously. (Though I'm more limited on the stamps than the stickers.)

https://gultsch.de/contact/

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