"They are trying to reclaim their faith and narratives from a fascist movement that always seeks to crush universities, storytellers, academics, and critics, who have always been the most powerful bulwarks. …
The mistake progressives and Democrats have made, of the many mistakes, is I understand people who believe in God like me, we're silly. We're dumb. We're stupid. We're antiquated. There is no God. You're an idiot."
"We should be done with religion. We should be done with. I'm like, yes, got it.
But religion isn't done with America. And religion plays a very powerful force. And if you cede the ground and the moral ground and the religious ground and the stories, if you cede it, then the right wing has come in, used it to, if you will, give it a sheen and a covering to advance this hateful agenda."