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OpenSSL Conference 2025 - Clemens Lang - Red Hat's Path to Post-Quantum Cryptography with OpenSSL
Excerpts from a conference talk recording, multiple short segments cut after each other. On one of the slides, a quantum computer is visible — a copper colored monstrosity that seems to hang from a ceiling with hundreds of small copper tubes that are neatly wired. It's wide at the top and gets smaller towards the bottom. In one section of the video, the speaker is identified as Product Owner RHEL Crypto Team, Red Hat.
OpenSSL Conference 2025 - Clemens Lang - Red Hat's Path to Post-Quantum Cryptography with OpenSSL
Excerpts from a conference talk recording, multiple short segments cut after each other. On one of the slides, a quantum computer is visible — a copper colored monstrosity that seems to hang from a ceiling with hundreds of small copper tubes that are neatly wired. It's wide at the top and gets smaller towards the bottom. In one section of the video, the speaker is identified as Product Owner RHEL Crypto Team, Red Hat.
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iang via cryptography <cryptography at metzdowd.com> quotes:

>The problem in a nutshell. Surveillance agency NSA and its partner GCHQ are
>trying to have standards—development organizations endorse weakening ECC+PQ
>down to just PQ.

Given that after 20 years and hundreds of millions of dollars spent
researchers have yet to demonstrate a single legitimate cryptanalysis result
using a quantum physics experiment, it's a bit like arguing over which brand
of unicorn repellent is the most cromulent.

The current state of things in terms of pure vs. hybrid systems seems to be:
Governments = Pure: “We're putting all our eggs in one basket and hoping that
the dial stops spinning at ‘not broken’”

Everyone else = Hybrid: “We trust this new stuff so little that we're
requiring you use the crypto that we claim is broken alongside it”

Peter.
iang via cryptography <cryptography at metzdowd.com> quotes: >The problem in a nutshell. Surveillance agency NSA and its partner GCHQ are >trying to have standards—development organizations endorse weakening ECC+PQ >down to just PQ. Given that after 20 years and hundreds of millions of dollars spent researchers have yet to demonstrate a single legitimate cryptanalysis result using a quantum physics experiment, it's a bit like arguing over which brand of unicorn repellent is the most cromulent. The current state of things in terms of pure vs. hybrid systems seems to be: Governments = Pure: “We're putting all our eggs in one basket and hoping that the dial stops spinning at ‘not broken’” Everyone else = Hybrid: “We trust this new stuff so little that we're requiring you use the crypto that we claim is broken alongside it” Peter.
iang via cryptography <cryptography at metzdowd.com> quotes:

>The problem in a nutshell. Surveillance agency NSA and its partner GCHQ are
>trying to have standards—development organizations endorse weakening ECC+PQ
>down to just PQ.

Given that after 20 years and hundreds of millions of dollars spent
researchers have yet to demonstrate a single legitimate cryptanalysis result
using a quantum physics experiment, it's a bit like arguing over which brand
of unicorn repellent is the most cromulent.

The current state of things in terms of pure vs. hybrid systems seems to be:
Governments = Pure: “We're putting all our eggs in one basket and hoping that
the dial stops spinning at ‘not broken’”

Everyone else = Hybrid: “We trust this new stuff so little that we're
requiring you use the crypto that we claim is broken alongside it”

Peter.
iang via cryptography <cryptography at metzdowd.com> quotes: >The problem in a nutshell. Surveillance agency NSA and its partner GCHQ are >trying to have standards—development organizations endorse weakening ECC+PQ >down to just PQ. Given that after 20 years and hundreds of millions of dollars spent researchers have yet to demonstrate a single legitimate cryptanalysis result using a quantum physics experiment, it's a bit like arguing over which brand of unicorn repellent is the most cromulent. The current state of things in terms of pure vs. hybrid systems seems to be: Governments = Pure: “We're putting all our eggs in one basket and hoping that the dial stops spinning at ‘not broken’” Everyone else = Hybrid: “We trust this new stuff so little that we're requiring you use the crypto that we claim is broken alongside it” Peter.
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