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everton137
everton137
@everton137@social.vivaldi.net  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

RE: https://mastodon.social/@seboslaw/116053607853749962

If public funding is being considered for a for-profit model, a robust and transparent technical assessment should be conducted first, including an evaluation of whether the AT Protocol is truly more scalable than ActivityPub.

I disagree that the two are technically complementary. Currently, BlueSky operates as a largely centralized platform, allowing it to avoid many of the governance and moderation challenges inherent to decentralized networks.

Its growth, with ~40 million users, shows that strong product design, marketing, and familiar timelines attract nontechnical audiences. This is a lesson in usability and investment, not necessarily a protocol advantage.

If they complement each other, it is politically and socially, not architecturally. One has capital and media visibility. The other has a live, interoperable ecosystem in which public institutions are already participating.

Public funding decisions should be made accordingly.

#ATProtocol #ActivityPub #BlueSky #Mastodon #EU #DigitalSovereingty

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@everton137@social.vivaldi.net  ·  activity timestamp 5 days ago

Will Mastodon, the platform that keeps the #Fediverse alive, miss a strategic opportunity to bring official institutions on board at scale?

By watching how #EuroSky is being marketed compared to #Mastodon, it certainly seems that way.

I wish the folks at Mastodon would invest in more professional marketing, similar to what we're seeing from its rival, Bluesky.

There was a major meeting in the EU Parliament focused on this topic, yet there was no announcement or microblog post from Mastodon. Zero engagement.

Compare these two approaches:

https://fed.brid.gy/r/https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:ituoear7k6qx3smjfoxhufm4/post/3me7pxwrgerri

#ActivityPub #ATProtocol #EU #lobby

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@mauve@mastodon.mauve.moe  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

New Blog post: I go over decentralized social media protocols like #nostr #ATProtocol and #ActivityPub and compare the tradeoffs between them.

https://blog.mauve.moe/posts/decentralized-social-media

Decentralized Social Media: What is it, how does it work?

This post will introduce you to the concept of decentralized social media and go over the tradeoffs between ActivityPub, AT Protocol, and Nostr. It's geared for a semi technical audience and was adapted from a [talk](../slides/decentralized-social-media/) I did at ForwardJS Ottawa.
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@mauve@mastodon.mauve.moe  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

New Blog post: I go over decentralized social media protocols like #nostr #ATProtocol and #ActivityPub and compare the tradeoffs between them.

https://blog.mauve.moe/posts/decentralized-social-media

Decentralized Social Media: What is it, how does it work?

This post will introduce you to the concept of decentralized social media and go over the tradeoffs between ActivityPub, AT Protocol, and Nostr. It's geared for a semi technical audience and was adapted from a [talk](../slides/decentralized-social-media/) I did at ForwardJS Ottawa.
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@ricci@discuss.systems  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/ has been switched over to new datasources for the social networks, coming from my own #fediverse crawler and #atprotocol observer. Improvements include better heuristics for fediverse user counts and real monthly active user stats for #bluesky/#atproto . I'm also making more raw data available, both for the most recent counts and historical data at https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/data/

Overall, doesn't change the conclusions much, but I'm very happy with these new datasources.

A screenshot of "Are We Decentralized Yet?", showing statistics for The Fediverse and The Atmosphere. There is a banner at the top announcing that it is now using new datasources
A screenshot of "Are We Decentralized Yet?", showing statistics for The Fediverse and The Atmosphere. There is a banner at the top announcing that it is now using new datasources
A screenshot of "Are We Decentralized Yet?", showing statistics for The Fediverse and The Atmosphere. There is a banner at the top announcing that it is now using new datasources

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@zoneghost@theforkiverse.com  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

RE: https://mastodon.social/@fediversereport/115905739520020086

It does feel like #activitypub has been frozen in amber, maybe this will help. I'm hoping #mastodon developers get involved or its very hard to see how things will change.

Especially the Live Online Account Portability stuff which #atprotocol just has from the get go.

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@zoneghost@theforkiverse.com  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

RE: https://mastodon.social/@fediversereport/115905739520020086

It does feel like #activitypub has been frozen in amber, maybe this will help. I'm hoping #mastodon developers get involved or its very hard to see how things will change.

Especially the Live Online Account Portability stuff which #atprotocol just has from the get go.

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@ricci@discuss.systems  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/ has been switched over to new datasources for the social networks, coming from my own #fediverse crawler and #atprotocol observer. Improvements include better heuristics for fediverse user counts and real monthly active user stats for #bluesky/#atproto . I'm also making more raw data available, both for the most recent counts and historical data at https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/data/

Overall, doesn't change the conclusions much, but I'm very happy with these new datasources.

A screenshot of "Are We Decentralized Yet?", showing statistics for The Fediverse and The Atmosphere. There is a banner at the top announcing that it is now using new datasources
A screenshot of "Are We Decentralized Yet?", showing statistics for The Fediverse and The Atmosphere. There is a banner at the top announcing that it is now using new datasources
A screenshot of "Are We Decentralized Yet?", showing statistics for The Fediverse and The Atmosphere. There is a banner at the top announcing that it is now using new datasources

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@reiver@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

The Bluesky Android mobile app is telling me I cannot use Bluesky unless I provide my date of birth.

(I haven't looked at Bluesky in a while — so, this might not be a new thing.)

I wonder if you can get around this by just installing an alternative (3rd party) Bluesky mobile app.

#ATProto #ATProtocol #Bluesky #bsky #Privacy

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[Age Assurance]

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[Age Assurance] It looks like you haven't added your birthdate. You must provide an accurate date of birth to use Bluesky. [Add your birthdate] 🦋 Bluesky To log out, click here.
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@reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:
@reiver@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

If I try to view a post on Bluesky web-based app, while being logged in, I see the following age-gate (in the attached screen-shots) — and am prevented from seeing the post.

If I try to view the post without being logged in, I don't get the age-gate, and can just see the post.

#ATProto #ATProtocol #Bluesky #bsky #Privacy

[Age Assurance]

Hi there!

In order to provide an age-appropriate experience, we need to know your birthdate. This is a one-time thing, and your data will be kept private.

Set your birthdate below and we'll get you back to posting and exploring in no time!

[Add your birthdate]

🦋 Bluesky

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[Age Assurance] Hi there! In order to provide an age-appropriate experience, we need to know your birthdate. This is a one-time thing, and your data will be kept private. Set your birthdate below and we'll get you back to posting and exploring in no time! [Add your birthdate] 🦋 Bluesky To log out, click here.
[Age Assurance] Hi there! In order to provide an age-appropriate experience, we need to know your birthdate. This is a one-time thing, and your data will be kept private. Set your birthdate below and we'll get you back to posting and exploring in no time! [Add your birthdate] 🦋 Bluesky To log out, click here.
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@reiver@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 2 months ago

The Bluesky Android mobile app is telling me I cannot use Bluesky unless I provide my date of birth.

(I haven't looked at Bluesky in a while — so, this might not be a new thing.)

I wonder if you can get around this by just installing an alternative (3rd party) Bluesky mobile app.

#ATProto #ATProtocol #Bluesky #bsky #Privacy

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[Age Assurance]

It looks like you haven't added your birthdate. You must provide an accurate date of birth to use Bluesky.

[Add your birthdate]

🦋 Bluesky 

To log out, click here.
[Age Assurance] It looks like you haven't added your birthdate. You must provide an accurate date of birth to use Bluesky. [Add your birthdate] 🦋 Bluesky To log out, click here.
[Age Assurance] It looks like you haven't added your birthdate. You must provide an accurate date of birth to use Bluesky. [Add your birthdate] 🦋 Bluesky To log out, click here.
My Birthdate 

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My Birthdate This information is private and not shared with other users.
My Birthdate This information is private and not shared with other users.
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Stefano Maffulli
Stefano Maffulli
@stefano@www.maffulli.net  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago

Eurosky dawns: Building Infrastructure for Sovereign Social Media – Open Future

Not sure how to take this: Mastodon already exists, it’s a European project and it’s struggling to take off.

I don’t think that the problem with Mastodon’s lack of adoption is the ActivityPub protocol. What advantages does the ATProtocol have that will lead to wider adoption?

developing alternative social media infrastructure that is not controlled by Big Tech or venture capital-backed US corporations, anchored within EU jurisdiction, and designed to foster a more pluralistic information ecosystem.

Source: Eurosky dawns: Building Infrastructure for Sovereign Social Media – Open Future

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@stefano@www.maffulli.net  ·  activity timestamp 3 months ago

Eurosky dawns: Building Infrastructure for Sovereign Social Media – Open Future

Not sure how to take this: Mastodon already exists, it’s a European project and it’s struggling to take off.

I don’t think that the problem with Mastodon’s lack of adoption is the ActivityPub protocol. What advantages does the ATProtocol have that will lead to wider adoption?

developing alternative social media infrastructure that is not controlled by Big Tech or venture capital-backed US corporations, anchored within EU jurisdiction, and designed to foster a more pluralistic information ecosystem.

Source: Eurosky dawns: Building Infrastructure for Sovereign Social Media – Open Future

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everton137
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@everton137@social.vivaldi.net  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

What will happen to the actual #Fediverse if Bluesky really succeeds as the mainstream federated social media platform with other interoperable apps?

#ATProtocol #ActivityPub #SocialMedia #BlueSky

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