@log

I think that name the trait is a better symmetry breaker against speceisism.

What trait does an abandoned baby human possess that a chicken does not that makes it ok to kill and eat the chicken but not the human?

#Speciesism #Carnism #HumanSupremacy

@log

Because there isn't a globalized industrialized mass slaughter industry for bonobos, billions of chickens are murdered every year

#Speciesism #Carnism #Chickens

@rancholibertad

We cannot avoid killing microbes, we can avoid treating chickens bodies like machines that are here to produce *for humans*

To suggest that because all ways of living cause some harm to non-humans invalidates the whole vegan position is a form of appeal to nirvana fallacy. Just because the perfect cannot be attained doesn't mean we shouldnt avoid obvious exploitation wherever we can

Actually antihierarchy is a foundational part of veganism, I'm a veganarchist, for me extending fundamental rights to non-humans is part of a wider anarchist project of dismantling systems of supremacy. When you put "food sovereignty" above other creatures right to life you are perpetuating a human supremacist hierarchy. You are saying that our human ambitions excuse exploiting their bodies.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "culturally viable" but any culture that necessitates unnecessary death and exploitation is not an excuse for exploitation its just a self serving rationalization for continuing to benefit from the subjugation of other species

From an anarchist perspective what it comes down to is this, for most of human history humans have leveraged their immense power over other species for their own ends with varying degrees of consideration to their wellbeing. As the population has gotten larger the demand for animal products has skyrocketed and now farming them has become incompatible with continued life on earth.

But the whole time there has been an implied consensus that other animals were here for us to use. That by way of us being able to kill them we were justified in killing them, and when self imposed limits were placed on hunting etc it wasnt for the non-humans benefit, it was to allow their continued exploitation forever

And the veganarchist position is this: that this supposed right of humans to kill other animals for our own purposes is a power hierarchy, and its an incredibly violent hierarchy that needs to be dismantled for the sake of the vast majority of creatures on this planet. So the claim that as a vegan I inherently justify a hierarchy of other species is unfounded.

#Vegan #Anarchism #Veganarchism #HumanSupremacy #Speciesism

@NanoRaptor @darryl_ramm Why do flies deserve to die for that

#Speciesism #Vegan

@matt

Where are all these carnists of conscience who care so much about the conditions of death but not at all that the death is completely unnecessary and cruel?

#Speciesism #Carnism

@Alice Ppl aren't ready to talk about how consensual cannibalism is more ethical than carnism

#Cannibalism #Carnism #Speciesism

@Tutanota The word "spam" meaning to flood a place with unwanted messages comes from a carnist joke made by #MontyPython in which the capitalist product #Spam is mythologized as an archetypal unwanted worthless repetition. A murder victims body reduced to a literal throw-away joke depicting their mangled corpse as nothing more than a nuisance.The company that killed them "Spam company" is remembered more readily than the victim #speciesism #carnism

@markwyner There's never an excuse to use misogynist and speciesist slurs, pigs and rats are innocent of the crimes of fascists and don't deserve to be compared to them. I shouldn't need to explain why bitch and pussy are misogynist

We can't fight one system of oppression while supporting others or it will just keep coming up in other forms like lumps in a carpet

#misogyny #speciesism #fascism

@tante

> When your brother-in-law starts yapping about the “criminal element” in the city, slap him with a ham.

this!

... except of course there shouldn't be "ham" on the table in the first place, because #speciesism is as unacceptable as #racism.

actually, "ham" is quite a slur to use about the murder victim on the table, likely forced into a gas chamber as it is the most common method of "stunning". and killing others in gas chambers is #fascism.