I like how people are recommending a bunch of FLOSS messengers now, its an opportunity to check out underrated projects like I just a few minutes ago learned about the FLOSS project Quiet (https://tryquiet.org) from a discord community trying to relocate.

The website says its all E2EE P2P with tor built in, channels like slack/discord, no email or phone number required. Unfortunately no quantum resistant encryption on the roadmap so I still would recommend SimpleX for general purpose instant messaging but Tor-by-default and P2P are genuine advantages over Simplex

If you found this post interesting you might also be interested in these decentralised encrypted messengers with various pros and cons compared to eachother:

Cwtch
https://cwtch.im
http://cwtchim3z2gdsyb27acfc26lup5aqbegjrjsqulzrnkuoalq5h4gmcid.onion/

Briar
https://briarproject.org/

Meshtastic
https://meshtastic.org/

#FLOSS #E2EE #PSA #Privacy #Security #Anonymity #Deniability #Meshtastic #Briar #Cwtch #SimpleX #Quiet #P2P #Tor #Slack #Discord

I like how people are recommending a bunch of FLOSS messengers now, its an opportunity to check out underrated projects like I just a few minutes ago learned about the FLOSS project Quiet (https://tryquiet.org) from a discord community trying to relocate.

The website says its all E2EE P2P with tor built in, channels like slack/discord, no email or phone number required. Unfortunately no quantum resistant encryption on the roadmap so I still would recommend SimpleX for general purpose instant messaging but Tor-by-default and P2P are genuine advantages over Simplex

If you found this post interesting you might also be interested in these decentralised encrypted messengers with various pros and cons compared to eachother:

Cwtch
https://cwtch.im
http://cwtchim3z2gdsyb27acfc26lup5aqbegjrjsqulzrnkuoalq5h4gmcid.onion/

Briar
https://briarproject.org/

Meshtastic
https://meshtastic.org/

#FLOSS #E2EE #PSA #Privacy #Security #Anonymity #Deniability #Meshtastic #Briar #Cwtch #SimpleX #Quiet #P2P #Tor #Slack #Discord

Hi @delta
You wrote :
> With #chatmail user identities are cryptographic and reside on end user devices only

Is it similar as the solution developed by #Jami #hubzilla #simplex or #nostr ? A kind of p2p with relay network?

@rakoo @delta

I'm glad to hear that I will have to take a closer look. Classical encryption is still a deal breaker though because of Store Now Decrypt Later attacks, SimpleX uses the double ratchet algorithm developed by signal, maybe DeltaChat could too idk if that's helpful.

#FLOSS #E2EE #PSA #Privacy #Anonymity #SimpleX #Signal #DeltaChat #QuantumResistantEncryption

@sashin

This is just one reason why I use SimpleX over Signal:

I can maintain several SimpleX profiles each with different static contact addresses and switch between them easily in the official client, and if I need more anonymity than that I can send someone a dm with a 1-time invite. Either way after someone connects to you every dm you are part of uses a different internal pair of addresses for sending and recieving messages which is why its like having a burner phone for every contact

http://isdb4l77sjqoy2qq7ipum6x3at6hyn3jmxfx4zdhc72ufbmuq4ilwkqd.onion/

#PSA #Privacy #Anonymity #E2EE #SimpleX

@evacide @mshelton

Signal is centralised and was attempted backdoored by the uks online safety bill and saved by signal threatening to walk. Simplex is open source and quantum resistant e2ee like signal and also has its secret group chats and metadata protection like Signal but SimpleX is also decentralised with ip protection, tor support, no persistent id basically "a burner phone for every contact"
Signals centralisation also makes it more vulnerable to total censorship, all you need to do is block signals domains, being a decentralised network SimplexChat has no single point of failure to censor and anyone can run their own relay node

#PSA #E2EE #Privacy #Encryption #Anonymity #Signal #SimpleX #UnitedKingdom #OnlineSafetyAct #Censorship

«Neonazis laufen von Telegram zu SimpleX über:
Der von Twitter-Gründer Jack Dorsey unterstützte Messengerdienst wirkt nach Verhaftungen im Telegram-Umfeld für Rechtsterroristen zunehmend vertrauenswürdiger»

Ich bin dem SimpleX kritisch gegenüber, da es für mich durch deren Investoren mysteriös wie Telegram. Ich empfehle für die Privatsphäre @briar und/oder @cwtch, denn IP los geht so was nicht.

😒 https://www.derstandard.at/story/3000000239683/neonazis-laufen-von-telegram-zu-simplex-ueber

#chat #privat #privatsphare #simplex #telegram #nazis #app #e2ee #twitter

@sashin

This is just one reason why I use SimpleX over Signal:

I can maintain several SimpleX profiles each with different static contact addresses and switch between them easily in the official client, and if I need more anonymity than that I can send someone a dm with a 1-time invite. Either way after someone connects to you every dm you are part of uses a different internal pair of addresses for sending and recieving messages which is why its like having a burner phone for every contact

http://isdb4l77sjqoy2qq7ipum6x3at6hyn3jmxfx4zdhc72ufbmuq4ilwkqd.onion/

#PSA #Privacy #Anonymity #E2EE #SimpleX

@Tutanota I've mentioned this before but SimpleX is more private secure and anonymous that signal threema and session.

SimpleX is decentralised meaning taking down a single group of servers or org wouldnt destroy the simplex network, people can run completely anonymous simplex servers over tor, this puts simplex ahead of Signal and Threema

SimpleX has quantum resistant encryption which puts it ahead of Threema and Session, the UK military[1] and NATO[2] both consider quantum computers to be a threat now because of store now decrypt later attacks

SimpleX has no user identifiers not even random strings, its essentially like having a "burner phone for every contact". Two or more compromised contacts could corroborate your messages by linking them to your signal username or your session id, but with simplex your contacts can't prove your identity even between eachother. This fact puts SimpleX above Signal Threema and Session

These technical details about the simplex protocol can all be found on the project website including the whitepaper[3]

[1]
https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/whitepaper/preparing-for-quantum-safe-cryptography

[2]
https://www.nato.int/docu/review/articles/2021/06/03/quantum-technologies-in-defence-security/index.html

[3]
http://isdb4l77sjqoy2qq7ipum6x3at6hyn3jmxfx4zdhc72ufbmuq4ilwkqd.onion/

#SimpleX #Threema #Signal #Session #PSA #Privacy #Security #Anonymity #NATO #UnitedKingdom #Tor #QuantumResistantEncryption

Hey @simplex is this really your founder? 👀
https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin

#SimpleX #InfoSec

@neil This is why we need decentralised e2ee apps like Simplex Meshtastic Cwtch Briar Deltachat, become ungovernable

#FLOSS #E2EE #SimpleX #Meshtastic #Cwtch #Briar #Deltachat #Anarchism

It looks like SimpleX has actually thought about the difficult problems with having multiple servers in a private messenger system.

I haven’t read in enough detail to be sure that they’ve succeeded in solving the problems, but they’re doing better than most of the other things I’ve looked at in this space. Signal could probably learn some lessons.

#SimpleX #Signal

@miya Simplex has a lot of the same advantages of signal and is better in some ways

both are floss messengers and have quantum resistant end to end encryption

simplex has multi profile functionality and anonymous invite links so each dm can be like a burner phone with no single user id to connect you to all your dms

simplex is decentralised, while unofficial signal servers cant federate with the official servers simplex is built as a decentralised network of relays that can pass messages to each other for enhanced privacy and ip obfuscation kind of like tor, and its apparently very easy to run a simplex relay bc you dont need a huge media server files and messages are ephemeral its up to end users to archive or back up

Signal was attempted backdoored by the uk govt and was only saved by signal threatening to walk, if simplex is ever compromised or enshittified forks can be made without losing your contacts we aren't totally reliant on the official simplex relays unlike with signal

#FLOSS #InstantMessenger #SimpleX #Signal #QuantumResistantEncryption #Censorship #UnitedKingdom #E2EE #Enshitification

@Tutanota
I keep hearing about #SimpleX but background checks on who is behind it go back to some random Russian guy based in London. Not the best recommendation for either company director or country of registration.
There's claims that it's been audited but only by one company "Trail of Bits".
Then there's SimpleX disclaimer which specifically states that it may be neither secure or safe.
Doesn't instil confidence.

The Mighty Simplex (2023)

https://galileo-unbound.blog/2023/05/03/the-mighty-simplex/

#HackerNews #The #Mighty #Simplex #2023 #technology #innovation #simplex #blog #post

@arstechnica If you dont want to be charged for piracy don't post pirated material on accounts linked to you, use #tor or private social media/messengers like #simplex

Countering toxicity and fake takes is not just a technical question (moderation, admins etc) but one of social curation both collectively and privately: which people and groups do you/we trust for what. No tool can automate that.

#deltachat is for private e2ee messaging and mutually curated group chats, and not random social media propelled onboarding. We are with #Signal here and not with #simplex and #matrix who offer public anonymous discovery of large chat groups with lots of unknown folks.

Countering toxicity and fake takes is not just a technical question (moderation, admins etc) but one of social curation both collectively and privately: which people and groups do you/we trust for what. No tool can automate that.

#deltachat is for private e2ee messaging and mutually curated group chats, and not random social media propelled onboarding. We are with #Signal here and not with #simplex and #matrix who offer public anonymous discovery of large chat groups with lots of unknown folks.