@Maker_of_Things I have a fairphone, but I have stock android on it because lots of stuff like banking apps only work on stock android...
@quixoticgeek @Maker_of_Things
Quick sidenote:
Ditto have a Fairphone (4), running #IodeOS (with MicroG replacing Play Services) -- at least my banking and similar apps just work fine.
Disclaimer: The web pages of the alternative OS usually have some compatibility lists, better take a look first, though.
RE: https://todon.eu/@joeneXtra/115877376620321285
I am a very bad listener. Sorry. But I decided to go for the #Fairphone.
Reasons:
1. Yes e/OS had it's issues, but those issues are only when you choose their premium subscription (that I won't use). And if there are other issues coming up, there is also regular LineageOS.
2. I could not afford a refurbished Pixel 9 all at once (I don't trust regular second hands), so than I had to go for a new Pixel 9 on installment, and that is giving a lot of money to Google and that is of course not de-googling. 🤷
3. The Fairphone is of course more ethical than the Pixel and not American (European, Dutch). Not perfect, I know, but still worth supporting.
4. The Fairphone has a warranty of 5 years and an end of life on 25 June 2033 (!).
5. A few people I know and trust recommended the Fairphone to me. 🤗
There is also #iodéOS (https://iode.tech/iodeos). Does Anyone have experience with this #LineageOS fork?
@Wtebbens Couldn´t agree more, and one of the biggest changes we can do as individuals is to make sure the hardware (laptops and cellphones) we buy are #MadeInEurope and run operating systems free from silicon valley spyware. Time to #degoogleyourlife with a #Fairphone or a #shiftphone running #IodeOS or Murena.
With the military attacks on Venezuela as a last drop, and especially because of the radical US strategy to 1. Impose digital colonialism 2. Its tariffs and 3. Force the buying of US weapons, we have to make radical choices. US gov is not our friend (any more).
Either we continue as a colony or we rebuild our economy locally, in the EU, strengthening EU collaboration instead of weakening.
Time then for boycott and transitioning away from US dependency. Start with Digital Independence #diday
@Wtebbens Couldn´t agree more, and one of the biggest changes we can do as individuals is to make sure the hardware (laptops and cellphones) we buy are #MadeInEurope and run operating systems free from silicon valley spyware. Time to #degoogleyourlife with a #Fairphone or a #shiftphone running #IodeOS or Murena.
My iodeOS degoogled phone has retained my preferred minimal desktop. The icons are folders with double click to launch specific apps. They are usually hidden until I click on the screen. This is my customised launcher and not the default IodeOS Interface. #DeGoogle #android #IodeOS #Screenshot
The overhead of disabling every single AI-first change in Firefox is already starting to weigh on firefox-forks.
My view on this hasn't really shifted in the last few months: unless an existing organization, with strong principles, steps forwards and commits to a hard fork I don't really see a future for Firefox.
(I think there are probably only 1-2 orgs with the combination of experience / maturity to actually pull that off, and none of them seem to be even considering that kind of future)
@sarahjamielewis not sure whether #firefox forks like in @iode's #iodéOS can also offer "AI disable by default" or remove any #AI code, but it seems a legitimite way to go. Also, it will be an #EU country to handle such modifications. #France #digitalsouvereignity
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iodé Browser
iodé browser is based on Firefox with #telemetry disabled, trackers removed, and alternative search engines: #Qwant (default), #Brave, #Ecosia, #Metager, Qwant light, #Startpage and several #Searx instances.
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https://iode.tech/iodeos/
My iodeOS degoogled phone has retained my preferred minimal desktop. The icons are folders with double click to launch specific apps. They are usually hidden until I click on the screen. This is my customised launcher and not the default IodeOS Interface. #DeGoogle #android #IodeOS #Screenshot
@konki Nei. Hos meg skjer det bare ingenting i appen. Den bare ser ut slik den gjør om man åpner den uten å ha initiert en innlogging noe sted.
@forteller Hmm, okey. Kanksje det ikkje er same problem. Eg fekk beskjed frå banken om å prøve å "logge ut" av BankID-appen og inn att med kodebrikke, men det går heller ikkje. Vurderer å byte til #IodeOS (eller andre alternativ om nokon har forslag) uansett ettersom utvikling av #CalyxOS er på hiatus.
@Tutanota i would not yet feel that issue because microG would never implement such anti-features, and if google puts that into aosp then would i need to worry tbh, but i already am switching over to #plasmaMobile6 on #PostmarketOS and with it away from the bloat of android but i am stuck on 2 apps that need AVB so no waydroid and for them do i use a seperate phone running #IodeOS.
i hope that this pushes the devs of android roms to maybe switch and contribute to #mobilelinux for more freedom.
If you think GrapheneOS isn’t private and secure, check out this comparison chart covering GrapheneOS, CalyxOS, IodéOS, /e/os, LineageOS, and Stock Android.
https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm
It shows how much more GrapheneOS focuses on security and privacy compared to the others!
Edit: GrapheneOS only supports Pixel devices because they meet the project’s security requirements, offering hardware features like memory tagging (MTE), StrongBox keystore, hardware key attestation, pKVM, hardened malloc, and more: https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices
If you think GrapheneOS isn’t private and secure, check out this comparison chart covering GrapheneOS, CalyxOS, IodéOS, /e/os, LineageOS, and Stock Android.
https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm
It shows how much more GrapheneOS focuses on security and privacy compared to the others!
Edit: GrapheneOS only supports Pixel devices because they meet the project’s security requirements, offering hardware features like memory tagging (MTE), StrongBox keystore, hardware key attestation, pKVM, hardened malloc, and more: https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices
