# Hubzilla and # streams both have it. # forte as well.

# Hubzilla and # streams both have it. # forte as well.

@osma

I was wondering if #Forte is the only #ActivityPub software to implement Conversation Containers and Nomadic Identity. Do you know of any others?

@osma

I was wondering if #Forte is the only #ActivityPub software to implement Conversation Containers and Nomadic Identity. Do you know of any others?

I believe Mike Macgirvin’s ActivityPub-based #Forte behaves in the fashion I have described above. So it may be worth checking out.

#Fediverse #Mastodon

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@valorzard @mcc Yes, that's the primary goal of my work:

https://codeberg.org/ap-next/ap-next/src/branch/main/nomadpub.md

I think #tootik and #Forte already allow full migrations, but something akin to ATProto PDS or Nostr Relay will take more time to build.

@valorzard @mcc Yes, that's the primary goal of my work:

https://codeberg.org/ap-next/ap-next/src/branch/main/nomadpub.md

I think #tootik and #Forte already allow full migrations, but something akin to ATProto PDS or Nostr Relay will take more time to build.

Also: if FEP-ef61

https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/ef61/fep-ef61.md

becomes widely adopted in future, then other ActivityPub-based software may incorporate nomadic identity, and you may have to worry about all of the above at that point.

#ActivityPub#ATProto#Fediverse#Bluesky#Threads#Hubzilla #(streams) #Forte

Also: if FEP-ef61

https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/ef61/fep-ef61.md

becomes widely adopted in future, then other ActivityPub-based software may incorporate nomadic identity, and you may have to worry about all of the above at that point.

#ActivityPub#ATProto#Fediverse#Bluesky#Threads#Hubzilla #(streams) #Forte

To be clear: the active user base of Hubzilla probably numbers less than 1000, and those of (streams) and Forte far far smaller than that; so in your plots, their exclusion/inclusion is not going to be visually discernible to anyone. At present, it will not affect any inferences one may draw from your plots.

But for the sake of completeness, you may want to consider these questions.

#ActivityPub#ATProto#Fediverse#Bluesky#Threads#Hubzilla #(streams) #Forte

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Forte certainly qualifies as part of the Fediverse, by any criteria. So you will definitely have to worry about counting each channel of any account on a Forte instance, and about not counting clones of that channel.

#ActivityPub#ATProto#Fediverse#Bluesky#Threads#Hubzilla #(streams) #Forte

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The author of Hubzilla and (streams) also developed the ActivityPub-based Forte, which has nomadic identity, with all of the properties described above.

https://codeberg.org/fortified/forte/

#ActivityPub#ATProto#Fediverse#Bluesky#Threads#Hubzilla #(streams) #Forte

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So if you are including Hubzilla and (streams) users, you will have to worry about counting each channel for an account, but not counting any of the clones of a given channel. Are you doing that?

#ActivityPub#ATProto#Fediverse#Bluesky#Threads#Hubzilla #(streams) #Forte

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This also raises another question. Hubzilla and (streams) both have nomadic identity, so a user can have multiple clones of a channel across different instances, and activity on any one of those gets mirrored across all the clones. And an account on an instance can have multiple channels—a channel is what participates in the Fediverse.

#ActivityPub#ATProto#Fediverse#Bluesky#Threads#Hubzilla #(streams) #Forte

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