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Feoh
@feoh@oldbytes.space  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago
@offby1 Wow I so very vehemently agree.

I try and tell people what an enormous quality of life boost paying for @kagihq is, and often I get this eyes glazed over look, like they can't CONCEIVE that the web search tool they use is important and a huge determinant pf productivity for many tech folks in 2025.

Because for many of us, a LOT of what we do is system integration. Piecing together existing LEGO blocks in patterns that are very rarely new to the world but may well be new to us.

I just got Ubuntu installed on my desktop, and had the experience of thinking "WOW why are my web search results just TRASH all of a sudden?" and then I realized I hadn't logged into #kagi yet and was getting the GOOG garbage dump instead :)
Feoh
@feoh@oldbytes.space  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago
@offby1 Wow I so very vehemently agree.

I try and tell people what an enormous quality of life boost paying for @kagihq is, and often I get this eyes glazed over look, like they can't CONCEIVE that the web search tool they use is important and a huge determinant pf productivity for many tech folks in 2025.

Because for many of us, a LOT of what we do is system integration. Piecing together existing LEGO blocks in patterns that are very rarely new to the world but may well be new to us.

I just got Ubuntu installed on my desktop, and had the experience of thinking "WOW why are my web search results just TRASH all of a sudden?" and then I realized I hadn't logged into #kagi yet and was getting the GOOG garbage dump instead :)
Chris is.
@offby1@wandering.shop  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

I did this over a year ago and have never once regretted it: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/08/enough-is-enough-i-dumped-googles-worsening-search-for-kagi/

Dropping #Google search for #Kagi made me actually efficient using web search again. It's not that I don't use LLM web searches where appropriate but now I have a choice again, and my search provider is paid for by me, not by companies looking for my attention.

All Europeans 🇪🇺
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Jérémy -Jeey-
@jeeynet@framapiaf.org  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

Search engines in a nutshell

#SearchEngines#Google#Bing#DuckDuckGo#ZoTop#SearxNG#Brave#Qwant#Startpage#SwissCows#Mojeek#Ecosia#Lilo#Stract#Marginalia#MullvadLeta #Kagi

https://www.jeey.net/google.html

Name : Google - URL : 🤬 - Ads : Yes - AI : Yes - Privacy : YOLO - Engine : google - Paid service : No Name : Bing (Microsof) - URL : 🤢 - Ads : Yes - AI : Yes - Privacy : YOLO - Engine : bing - Paid service : No Name : ZoTop (Zaclys) - URL : zotop.zaclys.com - Ads : No - AI : No - Privacy : Respected - Engine : google, bing, etc. (configurable) - Paid service : No Name : Brave Search - URL : search.brave.com - Ads : No - AI : Yes - Privacy : Respected - Engine : Brave Search - Paid service : No Name : Qwant - URL : qwant.com - Ads : Yes - AI : Yes - Privacy : Not so much - Engine : Bing - Paid service : No Name : Duckduckgo - URL : duckduckgo.com - Ads : Yes (can be disable) - AI : Not by default - Privacy : Not so much - Engine : Bing and others - Paid service : No Name : Swisscows - URL : swisscows.com - Ads : Yes (not for subscribers) - AI : Yes - Privacy : Not so much - Engine : Bing - Paid service : Optional Name : StartPage - URL : startpage.com - Ads : Yes - AI : No - Privacy : Respected - Engine : Google - Paid service : No Name : Mojeek - URL : mojeek.com - Ads : No - AI : Yes (specific tab) - Privacy : Respected - Engine : Mojeek - Paid service : No Name : Ecosia - URL : ecosia.org - Ads : Yes - AI : Yes - Privacy : Not so much - Engine : Bing - Paid service : No Name : Mullvad Leta - URL : leta.mullvad.net - Ads : No - AI : No - Privacy : Respected - Engine : Google, Brave - Paid service : No
Name : Google - URL : 🤬 - Ads : Yes - AI : Yes - Privacy : YOLO - Engine : google - Paid service : No Name : Bing (Microsof) - URL : 🤢 - Ads : Yes - AI : Yes - Privacy : YOLO - Engine : bing - Paid service : No Name : ZoTop (Zaclys) - URL : zotop.zaclys.com - Ads : No - AI : No - Privacy : Respected - Engine : google, bing, etc. (configurable) - Paid service : No Name : Brave Search - URL : search.brave.com - Ads : No - AI : Yes - Privacy : Respected - Engine : Brave Search - Paid service : No Name : Qwant - URL : qwant.com - Ads : Yes - AI : Yes - Privacy : Not so much - Engine : Bing - Paid service : No Name : Duckduckgo - URL : duckduckgo.com - Ads : Yes (can be disable) - AI : Not by default - Privacy : Not so much - Engine : Bing and others - Paid service : No Name : Swisscows - URL : swisscows.com - Ads : Yes (not for subscribers) - AI : Yes - Privacy : Not so much - Engine : Bing - Paid service : Optional Name : StartPage - URL : startpage.com - Ads : Yes - AI : No - Privacy : Respected - Engine : Google - Paid service : No Name : Mojeek - URL : mojeek.com - Ads : No - AI : Yes (specific tab) - Privacy : Respected - Engine : Mojeek - Paid service : No Name : Ecosia - URL : ecosia.org - Ads : Yes - AI : Yes - Privacy : Not so much - Engine : Bing - Paid service : No Name : Mullvad Leta - URL : leta.mullvad.net - Ads : No - AI : No - Privacy : Respected - Engine : Google, Brave - Paid service : No
Name : Google - URL : 🤬 - Ads : Yes - AI : Yes - Privacy : YOLO - Engine : google - Paid service : No Name : Bing (Microsof) - URL : 🤢 - Ads : Yes - AI : Yes - Privacy : YOLO - Engine : bing - Paid service : No Name : ZoTop (Zaclys) - URL : zotop.zaclys.com - Ads : No - AI : No - Privacy : Respected - Engine : google, bing, etc. (configurable) - Paid service : No Name : Brave Search - URL : search.brave.com - Ads : No - AI : Yes - Privacy : Respected - Engine : Brave Search - Paid service : No Name : Qwant - URL : qwant.com - Ads : Yes - AI : Yes - Privacy : Not so much - Engine : Bing - Paid service : No Name : Duckduckgo - URL : duckduckgo.com - Ads : Yes (can be disable) - AI : Not by default - Privacy : Not so much - Engine : Bing and others - Paid service : No Name : Swisscows - URL : swisscows.com - Ads : Yes (not for subscribers) - AI : Yes - Privacy : Not so much - Engine : Bing - Paid service : Optional Name : StartPage - URL : startpage.com - Ads : Yes - AI : No - Privacy : Respected - Engine : Google - Paid service : No Name : Mojeek - URL : mojeek.com - Ads : No - AI : Yes (specific tab) - Privacy : Respected - Engine : Mojeek - Paid service : No Name : Ecosia - URL : ecosia.org - Ads : Yes - AI : Yes - Privacy : Not so much - Engine : Bing - Paid service : No Name : Mullvad Leta - URL : leta.mullvad.net - Ads : No - AI : No - Privacy : Respected - Engine : Google, Brave - Paid service : No
Alyn
@alyn@wandering.shop  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago
@pluralistic
Got upset enough that I now run a small instance of #searxng which does a similar thing to #Kagi (searches across multiple services) but without its own index - a metasearch engine essentially.
Strips out ads and AI responses and was moderately useful a little while ago for ascertaining that one service had heavily de-prioritised a blog post - the interface indicates which services provided which results.
Cory Doctorow
@pluralistic@mamot.fr  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

It's been more than a year since I gave up on Google Search (I switched to Kagi.com and never looked back). I don't miss it. It had gotten terrible. It's gotten worse since, thanks to AI (of course):

https://pluralistic.net/2024/04/04/teach-me-how-to-shruggie/#kagi

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If you'd like an essay-formatted version of this thread to read or share, here's a link to it on pluralistic.net, my surveillance-free, ad-free, tracker-free blog:

https://pluralistic.net/2025/07/15/inhuman-gigapede/#coprophagic-ai

1/

A smoggy cityscape. In the foreground is a partially open can of Spam, whose label has been pixelated. The glistening spam atop the can has been overlaid with the original Google homepage. In the background looms the glaring red eye of HAL 9000 from Kubrick's '2001: A Space Odyssey.' Image: Cryteria (modified) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:HAL9000.svg CC BY 3.0 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.en -- Radek Kołakowski (modified) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Warszawski_smog_(22798350941).jpg CC BY 2.0 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/deed.en
A smoggy cityscape. In the foreground is a partially open can of Spam, whose label has been pixelated. The glistening spam atop the can has been overlaid with the original Google homepage. In the background looms the glaring red eye of HAL 9000 from Kubrick's '2001: A Space Odyssey.' Image: Cryteria (modified) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:HAL9000.svg CC BY 3.0 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.en -- Radek Kołakowski (modified) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Warszawski_smog_(22798350941).jpg CC BY 2.0 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/deed.en
A smoggy cityscape. In the foreground is a partially open can of Spam, whose label has been pixelated. The glistening spam atop the can has been overlaid with the original Google homepage. In the background looms the glaring red eye of HAL 9000 from Kubrick's '2001: A Space Odyssey.' Image: Cryteria (modified) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:HAL9000.svg CC BY 3.0 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.en -- Radek Kołakowski (modified) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Warszawski_smog_(22798350941).jpg CC BY 2.0 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/deed.en
Alyn
@alyn@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago
@pluralistic
Got upset enough that I now run a small instance of #searxng which does a similar thing to #Kagi (searches across multiple services) but without its own index - a metasearch engine essentially.
Strips out ads and AI responses and was moderately useful a little while ago for ascertaining that one service had heavily de-prioritised a blog post - the interface indicates which services provided which results.
Jérémy -Jeey-
@jeeynet@framapiaf.org  ·  activity timestamp 3 weeks ago

Search engines in a nutshell

#SearchEngines#Google#Bing#DuckDuckGo#ZoTop#SearxNG#Brave#Qwant#Startpage#SwissCows#Mojeek#Ecosia#Lilo#Stract#Marginalia#MullvadLeta #Kagi

https://www.jeey.net/google.html

Name : Google - URL : 🤬 - Ads : Yes - AI : Yes - Privacy : YOLO - Engine : google - Paid service : No Name : Bing (Microsof) - URL : 🤢 - Ads : Yes - AI : Yes - Privacy : YOLO - Engine : bing - Paid service : No Name : ZoTop (Zaclys) - URL : zotop.zaclys.com - Ads : No - AI : No - Privacy : Respected - Engine : google, bing, etc. (configurable) - Paid service : No Name : Brave Search - URL : search.brave.com - Ads : No - AI : Yes - Privacy : Respected - Engine : Brave Search - Paid service : No Name : Qwant - URL : qwant.com - Ads : Yes - AI : Yes - Privacy : Not so much - Engine : Bing - Paid service : No Name : Duckduckgo - URL : duckduckgo.com - Ads : Yes (can be disable) - AI : Not by default - Privacy : Not so much - Engine : Bing and others - Paid service : No Name : Swisscows - URL : swisscows.com - Ads : Yes (not for subscribers) - AI : Yes - Privacy : Not so much - Engine : Bing - Paid service : Optional Name : StartPage - URL : startpage.com - Ads : Yes - AI : No - Privacy : Respected - Engine : Google - Paid service : No Name : Mojeek - URL : mojeek.com - Ads : No - AI : Yes (specific tab) - Privacy : Respected - Engine : Mojeek - Paid service : No Name : Ecosia - URL : ecosia.org - Ads : Yes - AI : Yes - Privacy : Not so much - Engine : Bing - Paid service : No Name : Mullvad Leta - URL : leta.mullvad.net - Ads : No - AI : No - Privacy : Respected - Engine : Google, Brave - Paid service : No
Name : Google - URL : 🤬 - Ads : Yes - AI : Yes - Privacy : YOLO - Engine : google - Paid service : No Name : Bing (Microsof) - URL : 🤢 - Ads : Yes - AI : Yes - Privacy : YOLO - Engine : bing - Paid service : No Name : ZoTop (Zaclys) - URL : zotop.zaclys.com - Ads : No - AI : No - Privacy : Respected - Engine : google, bing, etc. (configurable) - Paid service : No Name : Brave Search - URL : search.brave.com - Ads : No - AI : Yes - Privacy : Respected - Engine : Brave Search - Paid service : No Name : Qwant - URL : qwant.com - Ads : Yes - AI : Yes - Privacy : Not so much - Engine : Bing - Paid service : No Name : Duckduckgo - URL : duckduckgo.com - Ads : Yes (can be disable) - AI : Not by default - Privacy : Not so much - Engine : Bing and others - Paid service : No Name : Swisscows - URL : swisscows.com - Ads : Yes (not for subscribers) - AI : Yes - Privacy : Not so much - Engine : Bing - Paid service : Optional Name : StartPage - URL : startpage.com - Ads : Yes - AI : No - Privacy : Respected - Engine : Google - Paid service : No Name : Mojeek - URL : mojeek.com - Ads : No - AI : Yes (specific tab) - Privacy : Respected - Engine : Mojeek - Paid service : No Name : Ecosia - URL : ecosia.org - Ads : Yes - AI : Yes - Privacy : Not so much - Engine : Bing - Paid service : No Name : Mullvad Leta - URL : leta.mullvad.net - Ads : No - AI : No - Privacy : Respected - Engine : Google, Brave - Paid service : No
Name : Google - URL : 🤬 - Ads : Yes - AI : Yes - Privacy : YOLO - Engine : google - Paid service : No Name : Bing (Microsof) - URL : 🤢 - Ads : Yes - AI : Yes - Privacy : YOLO - Engine : bing - Paid service : No Name : ZoTop (Zaclys) - URL : zotop.zaclys.com - Ads : No - AI : No - Privacy : Respected - Engine : google, bing, etc. (configurable) - Paid service : No Name : Brave Search - URL : search.brave.com - Ads : No - AI : Yes - Privacy : Respected - Engine : Brave Search - Paid service : No Name : Qwant - URL : qwant.com - Ads : Yes - AI : Yes - Privacy : Not so much - Engine : Bing - Paid service : No Name : Duckduckgo - URL : duckduckgo.com - Ads : Yes (can be disable) - AI : Not by default - Privacy : Not so much - Engine : Bing and others - Paid service : No Name : Swisscows - URL : swisscows.com - Ads : Yes (not for subscribers) - AI : Yes - Privacy : Not so much - Engine : Bing - Paid service : Optional Name : StartPage - URL : startpage.com - Ads : Yes - AI : No - Privacy : Respected - Engine : Google - Paid service : No Name : Mojeek - URL : mojeek.com - Ads : No - AI : Yes (specific tab) - Privacy : Respected - Engine : Mojeek - Paid service : No Name : Ecosia - URL : ecosia.org - Ads : Yes - AI : Yes - Privacy : Not so much - Engine : Bing - Paid service : No Name : Mullvad Leta - URL : leta.mullvad.net - Ads : No - AI : No - Privacy : Respected - Engine : Google, Brave - Paid service : No
Kagi HQ
@kagihq@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

Our revamped News homepage is live! Discover top stories and curated categories front and center, making it easier than ever to stay informed with highlights, timelines, and more: https://kagi.com/news

Updated daily. Plus, a native mobile News experience is coming soon! 🗞️

#Kagi#Search#News

Screen recording of the redesigned Kagi news page, showing categories like "World, USA, Business, Technology, Science, Sports, Gaming" followed by a news feature on trade titled "Trump warns Canada of 35% tariffs amid USMCA talks". Below it is a summary of that story, followed by a list of articles with just titles and no excerts, and followed by a perspectives showing different facts as reported by various news sources such as Politico, The Globe and Mail, and DW. Towards the end of the section is "Highlights" which is a summary of the main talking points, and below that a section displaying a timeline of events in recent days. The video finishes showing a section called "did you know?" which says: "The United States and Canada exchange more than US $2 billion in goods and services every single day."
Screen recording of the redesigned Kagi news page, showing categories like "World, USA, Business, Technology, Science, Sports, Gaming" followed by a news feature on trade titled "Trump warns Canada of 35% tariffs amid USMCA talks". Below it is a summary of that story, followed by a list of articles with just titles and no excerts, and followed by a perspectives showing different facts as reported by various news sources such as Politico, The Globe and Mail, and DW. Towards the end of the section is "Highlights" which is a summary of the main talking points, and below that a section displaying a timeline of events in recent days. The video finishes showing a section called "did you know?" which says: "The United States and Canada exchange more than US $2 billion in goods and services every single day."
Ilya Kolotovkin
@skyraider@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

@Tutanota I would add kagi.com as a search engine and Maps :)

And Orion browser from Kagi as well.

@kagihq
Kagi HQ
@kagihq@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 weeks ago

Our revamped News homepage is live! Discover top stories and curated categories front and center, making it easier than ever to stay informed with highlights, timelines, and more: https://kagi.com/news

Updated daily. Plus, a native mobile News experience is coming soon! 🗞️

#Kagi#Search#News

Screen recording of the redesigned Kagi news page, showing categories like "World, USA, Business, Technology, Science, Sports, Gaming" followed by a news feature on trade titled "Trump warns Canada of 35% tariffs amid USMCA talks". Below it is a summary of that story, followed by a list of articles with just titles and no excerts, and followed by a perspectives showing different facts as reported by various news sources such as Politico, The Globe and Mail, and DW. Towards the end of the section is "Highlights" which is a summary of the main talking points, and below that a section displaying a timeline of events in recent days. The video finishes showing a section called "did you know?" which says: "The United States and Canada exchange more than US $2 billion in goods and services every single day."
Screen recording of the redesigned Kagi news page, showing categories like "World, USA, Business, Technology, Science, Sports, Gaming" followed by a news feature on trade titled "Trump warns Canada of 35% tariffs amid USMCA talks". Below it is a summary of that story, followed by a list of articles with just titles and no excerts, and followed by a perspectives showing different facts as reported by various news sources such as Politico, The Globe and Mail, and DW. Towards the end of the section is "Highlights" which is a summary of the main talking points, and below that a section displaying a timeline of events in recent days. The video finishes showing a section called "did you know?" which says: "The United States and Canada exchange more than US $2 billion in goods and services every single day."