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Fedi.Tips
@FediTips@social.growyourown.services  ·  activity timestamp last week

p.s. If you're wondering why you don't hear more about web apps, it's because Apple and Google hate them. Web apps totally bypass Apple and Google app stores.

Apple and Google enjoy controlling and taxing apps, but they have no control over web apps and don't get any money from them.

Apple even tried to stop web apps completely, luckily they had to back off: https://open-web-advocacy.org/blog/apple-backs-off-killing-web-apps

Web apps are a way of getting apps directly from the people who make them, without big tech getting in the way.

e11bits
@e11bits@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp yesterday

@FediTips I keep hoping the developer verification #Google tries to force on #android can still be averted. But in any case, what I would love to see as a result of this BS move is, to give the idea of #PWA (progressive web apps) a big boost. But maybe the next step is, that #Google sides with #Apple in another attempt to kill #PWA ...

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Progressive_web_apps/Guides/What_is_a_progressive_web_app

#FDroid #sideload #digitalautonomy #webdev #appdev

What is a progressive web app? - Progressive web apps | MDNMDN

A progressive web app (PWA) is an app that's built using web platform technologies, but that provides a user experience like that of a platform-specific app.
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mikael
@mikael@merveilles.town  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

Keep Android Open!!!

https://keepandroidopen.org

In August 2025, Google announced that starting next year, it will no longer be possible to develop apps for the Android platform without first registering centrally with Google.

#android #fdroid #opensource #google #sideload

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mikael
@mikael@merveilles.town  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

Keep Android Open!!!

https://keepandroidopen.org

In August 2025, Google announced that starting next year, it will no longer be possible to develop apps for the Android platform without first registering centrally with Google.

#android #fdroid #opensource #google #sideload

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Giacomo Tesio
@giacomo@snac.tesio.it  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago
@informapirata@mastodon.uno

Non ho presente quale critica quelli di GrapheneOS facciano specificatamente a #FDroid (link?) ma in generale penso che quelli di #GrapheneOS sono come minimo sospettosamente paternalistici.

Se non proprio in malafede, visto che alla fine della fiera supportano solo smartphone letteralmente prodotti da #Google.

Se sei un narco-trafficante colombiano forse tanta rigidità ti serve, ma a me interessa di più l'autonomia cognitiva del 99.999% della popolazione mondiale.

Poi si può certamente fare ancora meglio di F-Droid: per esempio ci sono gruppi che si autogestiscono i propri repository, mettendoci dentro solo apk compilati da membri del gruppo con cui gli altri membri hanno stretti rapporti di fiducia. Si potrebbero tirar sù associazioni per distribuire/ridurre i rischi. Ma si può fare perché qualcuno ha creato F-Droid in prima istanza.

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Giacomo Tesio
@giacomo@snac.tesio.it  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

In che senso?

#Android funziona benissimo senza un account #Google.
Al limite usi AuroraStore installato via F-Droid per quelle rare App di cui non esiste un equivalente su #FDroid stesso.

Io poi disinstallo o disabilito sempre tutti i software di sorveglianza (di Google e non).
Android ti da attivamente una mano: dopo che disabiliti Google Play Services e Google Play, Android ti manda una serie di notifiche minacciose del tipo "Il software Stacippa non funzionerà senza Google Play Service! Corri a riabilitarlo!".
Così io cerco Stacippa su PackageManager per identificarne il nome pacchetto e disinstallarlo (o disabilitarlo, PackageManager fornisce comandi #adb per gli smartphone android non rootati).

O magari non ho capito la tua domanda?

CC: @informatica@feddit.it @informapirata@mastodon.uno

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informapirata ⁂ :privacypride:
@informapirata@mastodon.uno  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@giacomo Ma che ne pensi delle critiche che quelli di GrapheneOS Hanno lanciato al metodo di f-droid?

@lcruggeri @informatica

Giacomo Tesio
@giacomo@snac.tesio.it (and 1 other) recently replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago
@informapirata@mastodon.uno

Non ho presente quale critica quelli di GrapheneOS facciano specificatamente a #FDroid (link?) ma in generale penso che quelli di #GrapheneOS sono come minimo sospettosamente paternalistici.

Se non proprio in malafede, visto che alla fine della fiera supportano solo smartphone letteralmente prodotti da #Google.

Se sei un narco-trafficante colombiano forse tanta rigidità ti serve, ma a me interessa di più l'autonomia cognitiva del 99.999% della popolazione mondiale.

Poi si può certamente fare ancora meglio di F-Droid: per esempio ci sono gruppi che si autogestiscono i propri repository, mettendoci dentro solo apk compilati da membri del gruppo con cui gli altri membri hanno stretti rapporti di fiducia. Si potrebbero tirar sù associazioni per distribuire/ridurre i rischi. Ma si può fare perché qualcuno ha creato F-Droid in prima istanza.

@lcruggeri@mastodon.uno @informatica@feddit.it
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@informapirata@mastodon.uno  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@lcruggeri https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/26966-f-droids-delevoper-statements-about-googles-registration/3

@giacomo @informatica

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F-Droid's delevoper statements about Google's registration - GrapheneOS Discussion Forum

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Luca Ruggeri
@lcruggeri@mastodon.uno replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@informapirata @giacomo @informatica non del tutto scorretto, #fdroid avrebbe si dovuto usare il suo namespace. Ma al di là del namespace, che possibilità ci sono per un #newpipe di esistere nello store Google?

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Giacomo Tesio
@giacomo@snac.tesio.it  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago
@lcruggeri@mastodon.uno

Sul futuro di #Fdroid vedremo.

Difficilmente Google potrà impedire di compilare e installare un APK libera. O di distribuirla, se non violi la licenza.

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Giacomo Tesio
@giacomo@snac.tesio.it  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago
@lcruggeri@mastodon.uno

Sul futuro di #Fdroid vedremo.

Difficilmente Google potrà impedire di compilare e installare un APK libera. O di distribuirla, se non violi la licenza.

@informatica@feddit.it @informapirata@mastodon.uno
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Giacomo Tesio
@giacomo@snac.tesio.it  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago
@lcruggeri@mastodon.uno

Sul futuro di #Fdroid vedremo.

Difficilmente Google potrà impedire di compilare e installare un APK libera. O di distribuirla, se non violi la licenza.

@informatica@feddit.it @informapirata@mastodon.uno
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Luca Ruggeri
@lcruggeri@mastodon.uno  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@giacomo @informatica @informapirata usai per un tempo #android senza account, ma l'esperienza è (volutamente) limitata

Con le ultime chiusure di #google, non so che fine farà #fdroid

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Giacomo Tesio
@giacomo@snac.tesio.it  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

In che senso?

#Android funziona benissimo senza un account #Google.
Al limite usi AuroraStore installato via F-Droid per quelle rare App di cui non esiste un equivalente su #FDroid stesso.

Io poi disinstallo o disabilito sempre tutti i software di sorveglianza (di Google e non).
Android ti da attivamente una mano: dopo che disabiliti Google Play Services e Google Play, Android ti manda una serie di notifiche minacciose del tipo "Il software Stacippa non funzionerà senza Google Play Service! Corri a riabilitarlo!".
Così io cerco Stacippa su PackageManager per identificarne il nome pacchetto e disinstallarlo (o disabilitarlo, PackageManager fornisce comandi #adb per gli smartphone android non rootati).

O magari non ho capito la tua domanda?

CC: @informatica@feddit.it @informapirata@mastodon.uno

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AJ Sadauskas
@aj@gts.sadauskas.id.au  ·  activity timestamp 6 days ago

So I went to F-Droid and attempted to download the public transport plugin for Kvaesitso.

And I got a Google Play Protect popup message warning "harmful app detected".

It gave no further details about why this app is harmful.

Does anyone know if this app is harmful? If so how?

Or is this Google being a monopolist and blocking competing open source apps?

#Google #Android #AskFedi #FDroid #GooglePlay #degooglization #degoogleyourlife #Kvaesitso #infosec

Screenshot that says: "Google Play Protect

"Harmful app blocked

"Kvaesitso Public Transport Plugin

"This app may be harmful.

"Installing this app may put your device at risk.

"Learn more about Play Protect"

There's an "OK" button. Above the button, in small text, it says: "Install anyway."
Screenshot that says: "Google Play Protect "Harmful app blocked "Kvaesitso Public Transport Plugin "This app may be harmful. "Installing this app may put your device at risk. "Learn more about Play Protect" There's an "OK" button. Above the button, in small text, it says: "Install anyway."
Screenshot that says: "Google Play Protect "Harmful app blocked "Kvaesitso Public Transport Plugin "This app may be harmful. "Installing this app may put your device at risk. "Learn more about Play Protect" There's an "OK" button. Above the button, in small text, it says: "Install anyway."
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Pete Orrall
@peteorrall@mastodon.bsd.cafe  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

I use #fdroid but #google may be enforcing #developer registration in #android soon. This has the potential to end F-Droid altogether. Well this is definitely inconvenient. Hopefully some solutions and workarounds are available, up to and including new #mobile OSes.

#apple is just as nefarious as Google when it comes to #user #privacy.

https://www.theregister.com/2025/09/29/googles_dev_registration_plan_will/?td=readmore

#technews #smartphone

Google's dev registration plan 'will end the F-Droid project

: Open source Android app store cannot exist if Google's plans go ahead, says F-Droid board member
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Pete Orrall
@peteorrall@mastodon.bsd.cafe  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

I use #fdroid but #google may be enforcing #developer registration in #android soon. This has the potential to end F-Droid altogether. Well this is definitely inconvenient. Hopefully some solutions and workarounds are available, up to and including new #mobile OSes.

#apple is just as nefarious as Google when it comes to #user #privacy.

https://www.theregister.com/2025/09/29/googles_dev_registration_plan_will/?td=readmore

#technews #smartphone

Google's dev registration plan 'will end the F-Droid project

: Open source Android app store cannot exist if Google's plans go ahead, says F-Droid board member
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Tuta
@Tutanota@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

When we say #OpenSource, we mean business. That's why ALL Tuta apps are published on @fdroidorg

While Google & Apple monitor all push notifications, your data is safe when choosing Tuta Mail. 🔒

➡️ Learn why Tuta Mail is the only email provider app on F-Droid: https://tuta.com/blog/open-source-email-fdroid

#FOSS #Fdroid #Android #deGoogle

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Binoculars with the Google and Apple logo in each lens.
Binoculars with the Google and Apple logo in each lens.
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Tuta
@Tutanota@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

When we say #OpenSource, we mean business. That's why ALL Tuta apps are published on @fdroidorg

While Google & Apple monitor all push notifications, your data is safe when choosing Tuta Mail. 🔒

➡️ Learn why Tuta Mail is the only email provider app on F-Droid: https://tuta.com/blog/open-source-email-fdroid

#FOSS #Fdroid #Android #deGoogle

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Binoculars with the Google and Apple logo in each lens.
Binoculars with the Google and Apple logo in each lens.
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Hans-Christoph Steiner
@eighthave@social.librem.one  ·  activity timestamp 2 weeks ago

When building software, I believe it is important to work in public. Software can give small groups of developers immense power over lots of people. Like how governments work in public and corporations have to be more public than private company, developers should be transparent not only with their source code, but also the discussions and processes while building it. This can be hard to get used to, but not bad once used to it. Great examples of this are #Debian #GitLab and IMHO #FDroid

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