#Jabber is the worst form of #instantMessaging except for all the others.
#Jabber is the worst form of #instantMessaging except for all the others.
@chewie @zeank See, my second toot here is about XMPP server, not about TURN server ;-)
> what would be the incentive to hack an xmpp account? To send SPAM? That’s usually done by creating accounts on servers having open registration
In my country the hacked XMPP account could be used to sell illegal drugs — I heard that drug addicts and dealers sometimes are using Jabber to communicate.
Or, in a more common way — hacked XMPP account could be used to frame the person as a criminal or terrorist — by some foreign hackers or even by police or security services, if they want an "easy case".
It is not a big deal for some corrupted official — upload something like child pornography or texts with government criticism using hacked account on the server, then raid the person's home to sieze the server and "prove" the person's guilty this way. You can earn an easily closed case and good department statistics this way.
Maybe you heard about similar case with mathematician Dmitry Bogatov? Unknown bad guy posted calls for mass unrest in some forums using his Tor exit-node and the state tried to put the Dmitry in jail for terrorism and mass riots preparation.
So, I'm very surprised that I don't see attempts to break in my Prosody installation in the logs.
Few days ago I successfully configured #coturn to have a TURN/STUN server for in-family calls. But … looks like bots or some bad guys constantly trying to connect to my TURN server to use it for something 😒
Of course, it is impossible, since anonymous access or any other access without right key is impossible. But, there are no IPs of attackers in the log file, even wth "Verbose" directive — only my local and public IPs and my server's hostname
Maybe, there is some way to force coturn to display IP addresses of connected clients, so I could ban them all with fail2ban?
Pretty funny that bots are trying to break into my Nginx and TURN services, but absolutely ignore my Prosody service (I have a Jabber server with closed registration for in-family communication).
All unauthorized logins, logins with wrong passwords and attempts to register are logged. But, near half an year I see literally zero attempts to do something like that from bots
Maybe, they are trying to do something on the low level, which doesn't appear on the logs without "debug" level?
@ferret I guess I just can't bring myself to trust my communications to a system that was made by people who were investigated for spying on the US for Israel. I hope that I'm just being paranoid, but it can't hurt to be careful these days.
Just because we're paranoid, it doesn't mean they're not after us 🙂
I'm personally not paranoid about Matrix, but still prefer #Jabber. Partially because the former is more or less dominated by a single vendor. Also, because #XMPP is more lightweight. Anyway, whatever is free and federated, is fine with me.
Happy Birthday to #InstantMessaging and #RealTimeCommunication with #XMPP!
Emerged from the #Jabber #community in 1999 and originally designed to provide an open and #decentralised alternative to #ICQ and #MSN, XMPP evolved to an independent alternative for todays #chat apps.
#rtc #whatsapp #signal
#XMPP / #Jabber accounts to follow:
➡️ @joinjabber - Collective helping ordinary people join and use XMPP/Jabber
➡️ @xmpp@fedigroups.social - Discussion group about XMPP/Jabber
➡️ @xmpp@fosstodon.org - Official account of XMPP standards foundation
➡️ @xmpp_providers - Site featuring curated list of XMPP providers
➡️ @gajim - FOSS XMPP app for Linux, Mac, Win
➡️ @Monal - FOSS XMPP app for iPhone, iPad, Mac
➡️ @kaidan - FOSS XMPP app for Linux, Android
➡️ @prav - Free open XMPP app developed by co-op in India
🧵 1/2
#XSF Announcement
Join the 28th #XMPP #Summit taking place in #Brussels, #Belgium from 29th January.
https://xmpp.org/2025/11/xmpp-summit-28/
And visit the #FOSDEM 2026 were you can find the #Realtime Lounge, too!
#jabber #chat #interoperability #rtc #opensource #decentralization #federation #messaging
#XMPP / #Jabber accounts to follow:
➡️ @joinjabber - Collective helping ordinary people join and use XMPP/Jabber
➡️ @xmpp@fedigroups.social - Discussion group about XMPP/Jabber
➡️ @xmpp@fosstodon.org - Official account of XMPP standards foundation
➡️ @xmpp_providers - Site featuring curated list of XMPP providers
➡️ @gajim - FOSS XMPP app for Linux, Mac, Win
➡️ @Monal - FOSS XMPP app for iPhone, iPad, Mac
➡️ @kaidan - FOSS XMPP app for Linux, Android
➡️ @prav - Free open XMPP app developed by co-op in India
🧵 1/2
#XMPP / #Jabber accounts to follow (continued):
➡️ @thunderbird@mastodon.online (main) & @thunderbird@tilvids.com (videos) - Free open comms suite supporting XMPP, email, IRC, RSS
➡️ @pidgin - FOSS messaging app compatible with many standards including XMPP
➡️ @mellium - Co-op making Go-based resources for XMPP
You can discover even more technology and computing accounts to follow at https://fedi.directory/computing-technology (To follow an account, copy-paste its Fediverse address into the search box in Mastodon.)
2/2
#XMPP / #Jabber accounts to follow:
➡️ @joinjabber - Collective helping ordinary people join and use XMPP/Jabber
➡️ @xmpp@fedigroups.social - Discussion group about XMPP/Jabber
➡️ @xmpp@fosstodon.org - Official account of XMPP standards foundation
➡️ @xmpp_providers - Site featuring curated list of XMPP providers
➡️ @gajim - FOSS XMPP app for Linux, Mac, Win
➡️ @Monal - FOSS XMPP app for iPhone, iPad, Mac
➡️ @kaidan - FOSS XMPP app for Linux, Android
➡️ @prav - Free open XMPP app developed by co-op in India
🧵 1/2
#XSF Announcement
Join the 28th #XMPP #Summit taking place in #Brussels, #Belgium from 29th January.
https://xmpp.org/2025/11/xmpp-summit-28/
And visit the #FOSDEM 2026 were you can find the #Realtime Lounge, too!
#jabber #chat #interoperability #rtc #opensource #decentralization #federation #messaging
Happy Jabber Day 🎂 🥳
On January 4, 1999, Jabber was first announced to the public¹.
Twenty-seven years later, Jabber—or XMPP, as it became known after standardization through the #IETF—remains the only truly vendor-independent, federated instant messaging platform.
In almost three decades, XMPP has never stopped evolving and remains our best tool for digital independence.
¹: http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/01/04/1621211
#DigitalIndependenceDay #Jabber #XMPP #DiDit #DigitalSovereignty #DiDay
Happy Birthday to #InstantMessaging and #RealTimeCommunication with #XMPP!
Emerged from the #Jabber #community in 1999 and originally designed to provide an open and #decentralised alternative to #ICQ and #MSN, XMPP evolved to an independent alternative for todays #chat apps.
#rtc #whatsapp #signal