On the verge of ordering a QWERTY keyboard for my old T470.
AZERTY is a layout invented in hell, nothing makes sense on it 😵💫
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@thibaultamartin UK QWERTY + muscle memory of the AZERTY layout (so I can switch using OS tools and use the French accents when necessary) is what is currently working for me fwiw
@brendan international english keyboard on macOS with two layouts: US, and US International.
In US, pressing ` just prints the character.
In US International, pressing ` is a modifier. If I then press e it prints è.
That's what works best for me so far :)
@thibaultamartin Fair enough. In my situation the UK layout is the easiest to source, and I've used an AZERTY layout often enough that I can often just type from muscle memory without breaking my flow or needing two strokes for accented characters.
@thibaultamartin One of us! One of us! One of us!
@KekunPlazas already am on my current laptop, this is for the spare laptop!
@thibaultamartin you have your own keyboard layout too??
QWERTZ still feels sensible to me, but all punctuation useful for programming is so inaccessible 😭
@ju yes because é, è, ù and ç
But also let’s mess up symbols for absolutely no reason.
Oh and to type the numbers you need to press shift.
@thibaultamartin @ju A few weeks ago I had my first real contact with AZERTY. It drove me crazy. The passwords contained numbers. The m being in the "wrong" row didn't help either. 😄
@thibaultamartin oh no.
For us it's ö, ü and ä.
Also y and z are swapped (I assume because there is practically no usage of y in German)
And special characters are rearranged
@ju oh we do have an umlaut key, but it’s a modifier. Why é, è and ù deserve their own key instead of having ’ and ` modifiers? I guess it’s because of how frequent they are in French.
BUT DID WE REALLY HAVE TO MESS UP ALL THE PUNCTUATION FOR THAT
AND SHIFT FOR NUMBERS ARRRRGH
@thibaultamartin i guess it's time for you to switch to us(intl) 😊
@ju already using that layout, I just had to use AZERTY again on someone else’s laptop :)
@thibaultamartin @ju may I suggest querty with valencian/catalonian distribution?
@thibaultamartin Yes. You should get an #ergol keyboard. Ohwait.
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